RJ2112
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Being that I am a military retiree working on a military base, I decided riding my bike to work was mandatory.
Signing up for the ERC course was a little more complicated than I thought it should be, as I could not register for the class as a contractor.... I had to do so as a retiree.
Seems even though the DoD and Navinst are clear on the matter, they will only provide on base training to active duty, and civilian navy personnel. Contractors do not fit the prerequisites. However, retirees are allowed on a space A basis.
When I registered for the ERC, the ESAMS site asked me what kind of bike I was riding. When I used the pull down menu to select sport bike, that led to a requirement to attend the MSRC upon completion of the ERC.
The time came, and I managed to consume another vacation day to take the class.
Having now attended the BRC, ERC, and the MSRC, as well as Team Oregon's Advanced Rider Training..... I have to say the MSRC was not as valuable to me as the ART was.
The ART used a closed course, go kart track as the training range. As you would expect, the course was a LOT more technical than what could be done on the typical football field sized piece of asphalt the MSF instructors are working with.
The techniques to go fast by being smooth were explained and demonstrated much more effectively on the ART layout. Combining multiple compound turns on changing elevations, using a course line that could be as wide as an automobile lane was much more effective than the little cones, and occasional painted lines in a parking lot.
Rather than using 2 instructors that had to use flash cards to describe what was going to occur, ART employed at least 8 individuals to monitor and instruct a class of ~14.
Learning to stop hard in a turn, learning to use late apexing for corner entry, and learning to handle multiple turns by correctly identifying the appropriate line to stitch them together smoothly were all far more effectively taught, IMHO.
The MSF's target audience for the MSRC is quite obviously 20 somethings. There is much to be learnt there, but it's more about the mental aspects than the riding itself, and that comes up short in comparison to the ART.

Seems even though the DoD and Navinst are clear on the matter, they will only provide on base training to active duty, and civilian navy personnel. Contractors do not fit the prerequisites. However, retirees are allowed on a space A basis.
When I registered for the ERC, the ESAMS site asked me what kind of bike I was riding. When I used the pull down menu to select sport bike, that led to a requirement to attend the MSRC upon completion of the ERC.
The time came, and I managed to consume another vacation day to take the class.
Having now attended the BRC, ERC, and the MSRC, as well as Team Oregon's Advanced Rider Training..... I have to say the MSRC was not as valuable to me as the ART was.
The ART used a closed course, go kart track as the training range. As you would expect, the course was a LOT more technical than what could be done on the typical football field sized piece of asphalt the MSF instructors are working with.
The techniques to go fast by being smooth were explained and demonstrated much more effectively on the ART layout. Combining multiple compound turns on changing elevations, using a course line that could be as wide as an automobile lane was much more effective than the little cones, and occasional painted lines in a parking lot.
Rather than using 2 instructors that had to use flash cards to describe what was going to occur, ART employed at least 8 individuals to monitor and instruct a class of ~14.
Learning to stop hard in a turn, learning to use late apexing for corner entry, and learning to handle multiple turns by correctly identifying the appropriate line to stitch them together smoothly were all far more effectively taught, IMHO.
The MSF's target audience for the MSRC is quite obviously 20 somethings. There is much to be learnt there, but it's more about the mental aspects than the riding itself, and that comes up short in comparison to the ART.