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  1. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    Looks like this forums's domain changed. I edited the image links with the new 600riders.com domain to fix the images.
  2. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    Well, turns out the dealer tech troubleshooting was correct: defective fuel pump. A new fuel pump has it running flawlessly. It's a stunning $800 repair (pump+troubleshooting+install). I'm headed to the dealer now to pick up the FZ6 and ride it home. I was really hoping the tech was wrong...
  3. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    The dealer tech used a separate test pump and fuel supply, and the bike "ran flawlessly." There's no need to check pump pressure when you have a known-good pump on the bench. I don't know if the tech used the bike power supply or not, so there's a slim chance the issue is power. That's why...
  4. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    The dealer service manager just called me. The pump is defective. That sucks. As everyone here knows, a new pump assembly is $600. I'm having the dealer install a new pump. Fazil: I'm not mad at you. There's no way you could have known the pump wasn't working properly.
  5. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    No good news. All troubleshooting indicates the fuel pump you sold me is defective. It isn't maintaining 35psi. I'm throwing in the towel and taking the FZ6 to my local Yamaha dealer for troubleshooting. That way if the dealer tell me the pump assembly is defective, and I buy a new $600...
  6. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    The fuel rail is solid except for the pop-off valve, and 4 injector holes. There is no Schrader valve or nipple on the fuel rail. I'd have to put one inline with the fuel line. Not thrilled with that idea. The pump bench tested with 12VDC and it buzzed. I didn't bench pressure test the...
  7. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    What's more likely: all 4 injectors simultaneously losing power after start-up or the used fuel pump not maintaining 35 PSI?
  8. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    San Jose. Fully reassembled. Purchased pump from Fazil, a member of this forum. Supposedly a known-good pump. The injector harness is fine. All 4 exhaust headers get hot when I spray starter fluid into the airbox. This bike has been garage stored its' entire life. All fuses and fuse...
  9. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    The auto parts store fuel pressure gauge kit is $60. The local Yamaha dealer is 0.5 mile away and wants $95 to diagnose the issue. I have a wife ans=d 8mo son. This is taking too much time. The CA rollover valve is on the return line which connects to a hard pipe to the TOP of the tank just...
  10. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    The engine runs for a few seconds on its own fuel every time I cycle the ignition key. It runs great with starter fuel sprayed into the throttle bodies. Once I stop spraying, the engine quits. The kill switch is okay. Looking at buying a fuel pressure gauge kit and put that question to rest.
  11. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    Okay, I got some free time to troubleshoot the 2004 FZ6. After the fuel injector and rail cleaning (they didn't need cleaning - they were perfectly clean), same problem as my March 22 post: Bike starts, runs for a few seconds and stalls. With key ON and kill switch ON, the fuel pump primes...
  12. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    I didn't get any rust or debris in the fuel injector back flush. The forward flush with water and 30psi air shows good spray pattern from all 4 holes on each injector. The #1 injector didn't flow well at all with just air. After a water flush, all are very good. The injector rail is...
  13. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    Got the tight screws off using a trick for removing damaged carb float bowl screws: use vice grips on the screw head, while also twisting with a screwdriver. The fuel rail was completely clean. Zero signs of rust. All 4 injectors open with an audible click with 12VDC applied. Zero signs...
  14. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    Haven't had a free weekend to remove and clean the injectors. :( Tank is off. Air box is off. Fuel rail and air balance phillips screws are soft brass and torqued by a gorilla. Patience required.
  15. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    I took a page from the Super Tenere non-start troubleshooting. The recommendation is hold the throttle wide open, hold the starter for 20 seconds, and let go of the throttle. The FZ6 fired right up. (Yes, the starter should not be run for more than a few seconds at a time to prevent...
  16. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    Thanks for the flush details. I will start with assuming the fuel rail is filled with vapor, not liquid fuel and see if I can keep it running enough for the rail to fill. (That begs the question of the factory and dealers process to get new bikes running. There should be a bleed screw, but it...
  17. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    Thanks for the spec. My 50psi was just a guess. I haven't checked the fuel rail and don't have a pressure gauge for it. All four exhast headers get hot, so I think all injectors are clear. Could they all be partially fouled? Maybe. Haven't considered how to troubleshoot them. The supply...
  18. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    Confirmed. The unit was very clean, and the pump passed a 12VDC bench test and it also primes on the bike. The bike ran when parked and the only failure was the pump unit. The unit is probably good, but I have to troubleshoot it regardless.
  19. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    No. The reverse electrolysis removes red rust without acid. It takes longer, but the final result doesn't require a sealer or coating. I have zero confidence in a sealer or coating lasting long term, meaning decades. I have restored two 30 year old bikes and have talked to the owners...
  20. Hayabusafiend

    2004 FZ6 fuel pump failure

    I have completed the reverse electrolysis and updated the first page with pics. The fuel pump arrived from Turkey. It passed a power test and I mounted it in the tank with the fuel level sensor, also bench tested with an ohm meter. Haven't filled the tank with fuel yet. Ran out of spare time.
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