Michelin Pilot Pures Discontinued

[VEGASRIDER]

FYI....the Pures have been superseded by the Pilot Power 3's. I was able to find a set for $250 shipped directly to the shop of my choice for install. This will be my 3rd set of Pures. The dealership (Snakeriver Yamaha)charged me $137.00 OTD for removal and install including balance, front and rear sprocket replacment and a rear brake disc replacement. I supplied all the parts. I was happy with it.

Not sure exactly how much mileage I got out my last set, but I'm sure it was between 10-12k miles.

 

[Ssky0078]

Not sure exactly how much mileage I got out my last set, but I'm sure it was between 10-12k miles.

Hey Vegas,

Are you sure the Power Pure 3 is the direct replacement? I thought they replaced the Pilot Power 2CT which already replaced the Power Pure. I definitely know, that you know more than I do, so I'll defer to you. I was looking at the new Power Pure 3 because I want a hypersport tire after my PR2's are done.

If the Power Pure 3 is the direct descendant then do you think they will still get about 10-12k miles out of them?

 

[VEGASRIDER]

Hey Vegas,

Are you sure the Power Pure 3 is the direct replacement? I thought they replaced the Pilot Power 2CT which already replaced the Power Pure. I definitely know, that you know more than I do, so I'll defer to you. I was looking at the new Power Pure 3 because I want a hypersport tire after my PR2's are done.

If the Power Pure 3 is the direct descendant then do you think they will still get about 10-12k miles out of them?

The evolution of the Michelin Tires to the best of my knowledge were:

Pilot Powers

Pilot Power 2ct's, first dual compound tread that was replaced by the Pilot Pures which was a three compound tread which has been replaced by the Pilot Power 3's.

Pilot Power Supersport which I understand is their top of the line track tire.


The Pilot Roads, whether it's the 2's or 3's are in a different category.

I imagine I should get at least 10k out the Power 3's, but we won't know for another couple of years since I just got the Pures installed again. I usually average a tire replacement every 12 months, give or take a couple of months.

 

[Ssky0078]

The evolution of the Michelin Tires to the best of my knowledge were:

Pilot Powers

Pilot Power 2ct's, first dual compound tread that was replaced by the Pilot Pures which was a three compound tread which has been replaced by the Pilot Power 3's.

Pilot Power Supersport which I understand is their top of the line track tire.


The Pilot Roads, whether it's the 2's or 3's are in a different category.

Thank you,

Yeah I knew the Pilot Road series was entirely different and is considered their sport touring tire. It has a slightly harder compound and is built for longer life and less aggressive leaning. I personally am not a fan, although a lot of people love them. I am a more aggressive rider.


I'm still looking forward to moving on to the Power Pure 3's or at least a hypersport tire.

 

[Ssky0078]

Here's the order of performance Michelin gives on their website

Michelin Motorcycle Tires

I find it interesting they don't even list their 2013 tire lineup and on top of that don't even have the Pilot Power 3's at all when you can find them on Revzilla and such websites.

 

[darius]

FYI....the Pures have been superseded by the Pilot Power 3's. I was able to find a set for $250 shipped directly to the shop of my choice for install. This will be my 3rd set of Pures.

Why are these your tire of choice, Mr. Vegas?

 

[VEGASRIDER]

Why are these your tire of choice, Mr. Vegas?

http://www.600riders.com/forum/tire-tech-talk/38158-pilot-pures-retired-after-16-053-miles.html

 

[darius]

http://www.600riders.com/forum/tire-tech-talk/38158-pilot-pures-retired-after-16-053-miles.html

Thanks. Ok, so you like their longevity and grip, and don't want the compromises of an ST tire.

And apparently you either ride seated on the gas tank or stoppie at every set of lights.

 

[Ssky0078]

http://www.600riders.com/forum/tire-tech-talk/38158-pilot-pures-retired-after-16-053-miles.html

So, do you not come off the line very hard at all I'm guessing? I mean I can feel my back tire doing everything it can to stay connected to the road when I try to get going fast. I know I'm just gonna burn through that tire.

 

[TownsendsFJR1300]

The sport touring tires should out outlast the Pures as they do have a harder compound(obviously not as sticky). There are two different PR3's, one has a heavier side wall for big bikes, two up touring.

I'm still on my first, ft PR2 which is in great condition. I already went thru 2 REAR PR2's due to road debris poking holes in them.

I'm currently trying a PR 3 on the rear. Doing a little research on the PR3, besides better wet traction than the PR2, the center compound is suppossed to be just a tad harder, great for our flat lands down here .

 

[VEGASRIDER]

Thanks. Ok, so you like their longevity and grip, and don't want the compromises of an ST tire.

And apparently you either ride seated on the gas tank or stoppie at every set of lights.

I can't figure out why my front always wears out faster than my rear. Bugs the hell out of me. Maybe my riding style through the twisties, lot of hard pressings I guess.

So, do you not come off the line very hard at all I'm guessing? I mean I can feel my back tire doing everything it can to stay connected to the road when I try to get going fast. I know I'm just gonna burn through that tire.

I accelerate pretty quick, but not that quick. Fast enough to create a pretty good distance between me and the vehicles behind me, but nothing to a point that I'm goosing the throttle.

In comparison, I'm sure I am much more of a conservative rider than most people when it comes to riding out on the streets, especially when there is traffic. I like to keep my risk level down on the lower end of the spectrum.

 

[darius]

I like to keep my risk level down on the lower end of the spectrum.

That's why you commute in the snow and ice on a dual-sport with DYI studded tires! :BLAA:

Perhaps your fronts are wearing out first simply because the compound is softer being a premium sportbike tire that needs to handle hard braking. Compare this to your rear tire that you're really easy on, which the manufacturer intended to be thrashed some.

You're nothing if not smooth to make non-ST tires last that long. :thumbup:

 

[VEGASRIDER]

That's why you commute in the snow and ice on a dual-sport with DYI studded tires! :BLAA:

Weird thing is that, I feel safer and have more control on my bike than I would in a big car when it comes to slippin and sliding. I like my chances of recovery versus a car. Meaning a car might be more vulnerable. I'm much smaller and have more room to negotiate.

I'm hoping it snows again, I spent $450 to get new tires installed and studded.

 

[darius]

With your setup, skill, and attitude it probably is safer for you.

Did you find the snow/ice commutes fun? Any stories to share? Maybe reply in the other thread to not let this one go off topic.

http://www.600riders.com/forum/fz6-general-discussion/47723-studded-my-tires-riding-ice.html