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Motorcyles included in stimulus package (TAX)

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Motorcyles included in stimulus package

Written by Staff

Monday, 16 February 2009

Language that provides a tax credit for the purchase of a motorcycle has been added to the current economic stimulus bill, the AMA reports. The AMA, working in conjunction with other stakeholders, worked diligently to secure the motorcycle provision within the measure. President Obama is expected to sign the bill into law shortly.

"This inclusive and equitable solution will provide much-needed relief to riders, as well as to those who sell motorcycles," said AMA Vice President for Government Relations Ed Moreland. "When it appeared that motorcycles were going to be overlooked in this bill, the AMA and the Association's members, along with Harley-Davidson and others, took our case straight to Capitol Hill and persuaded lawmakers that this was the right decision."

Moreland added that motorcycle riders are just as likely to have been hit hard by the economic downturn as those who buy automobiles and light-duty trucks. Moreover, motorcyclists typically purchase new bikes, apparel, vehicle servicing and aftermarket equipment from local dealers that are family-owned small businesses.

Specifically, motorcycles are included as "qualified vehicles" in Section 1008 of the legislation. Those purchasing a new motorcycle will be able to deduct the sales and excise taxes on their 2009 tax returns. Prior to the actions taken by the AMA and others, the deductions only applied to the purchase of a new car or light truck.

"We want to thank all motorcyclists who took the time to contact their elected officials," said Moreland. "This victory is particularly gratifying because it represents a community-wide effort to elevate motorcycles as a recognized and viable means of transportation in America. Motorcycles are vital to the reduction of traffic congestion, provide efficient use of limited parking, have far less impact on our roads and bridges, and contribute significantly to our nation's efforts to consume less fuel. Our success today clearly indicates that our legislators are listening."
 
I guess that's alright, but being able to deduct the tax on a NEW bike isn't going to make me buy one. They should have states waive sales tax on ALL bikes. But, I guess it wouldn't matter anyways, because when I buy something used I say I bought it from a brother or sister in-law, and get exempted on sales tax anyways.
 
A - Freaking - Mazing!

Hey Fred, I'll take what I can get this year. The question is...will all of these deductions exceed the automatic deduction that everyone gets anyway? If it doesn't tax payer doesn't benefit because the amount if below the minimum, the government doesn't loose out and the law makers can beat their chests about being in touch with their base.

I curious to see how all of these deductions will be managed in Turbo Tax next year...You know one thing, Turbo Tax and other tax services will be hiring so they can rewrite their products.
 
hmmm.... if only NH paid those taxes to begin with...

Yeah, saw this ont he local forum the other day and thought about telling you we should move to mass......then i realized that it won't affect us anyway, since we aren't buying any bikes this year, and i'd rather live tax-free than get it back.

everyone should just move to nh.


nevermind, go somewhere else without taxes. Antarctica, maybe.
 
I ride primarily between job sites and clients, so I get to write most of my bike off anyway. I wanted to buy before the end of last year so I could write it off the '08 taxes, this deal is even better!
 
i just left my tax woman, and asked her about it... she said unless the price of my bike was more than $XX amount it wouldn't matter.. just like a tax rebate on medical bills... that sounds cool... start collecting all your copay receipts... wrong.. it has to be $1800 or more to even START being a tax write off so $1900 in medical bills is really only $100 after you deduct the $1800 minimum. ... sounds good until you read the fine print..
 
This is good for some people who live in states with no personal income tax or a very low personal income tax who itemize deductions but don't make a ton of $$ This is not an itemized deduction subject to the 2% floor....the sales tax deduction is in place of the state income tax deduction you take on schedule A (i.e., they are mutually exclusive). It's really not a big impact for most people....just a rah rah win for the AMA.

EDIT - about the free lunch comment....it's free for someone, someone else just has to pay for it!
 
I ride primarily between job sites and clients, so I get to write most of my bike off anyway. I wanted to buy before the end of last year so I could write it off the '08 taxes, this deal is even better!

I'm assuming you wrote off the % that you use for business use all in 2008? You should have included the sales tax in the depreciable basis and therefore already written part of it off. The remaining personal portion would be available as an itemizeded duction (per this law) if not for the fact that you probably pay a lot more in CA income taxes than you do in sales taxes....
 
Fred's right, the government is going to come up with all sorts of creative new taxes er... fees.
Just heard about a program in Mass. where due to fuel efficient cars and people driving less, therefore they are loising millions in gas tax revenue. So they would like to use gps to keep track of how many miles you drive and charge a quarter cent per mile.

Damned if you do and damned if don't. They are just greedy bastages!
 
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State to state the tax code may be different but you are still paying. For example we have personal property taxes on vehicles in VA a sales tax on all goods and a 'reasonable' property tax on your house. In NJ they don't tax food and clothing or have personal proterty taxes on vehicles (I think) but they have a higher sales tax and a huge property tax on your house. When you do the math the taxes end up being roughly equal the source just comes from different places.

The new tax breaks coming from the federal level aren't going to do a crap for me but most states will begin to raise taxes.
 
Don't the US HAVE to raise taxes in general, - with that 5.000.000.000.000us$ government paid help program?

They will have to raise taxes or cut programs. With a dem in office and the current 'crisis' it is unlikely programs will be cut. They will defer the tax increases which will just mean a bigger deficit that will have to be overcome because of interest.

It is funny because I just read a brief article that basically said americans are going to have to shift all their standards of living and financial goals downward. Yet a lot of the tax breaks still demand new spending. Sure buy a new house or car or motorcycle, we will cut you a tax break even though we are extending the same 'spending economy'.
 
Don't the US HAVE to raise taxes in general, - with that 5.000.000.000.000us$ government paid help program?

most of the income taxes in this country are paid by wealthy people who won't be getting a tax cut, they will be getting a tax increase. If you raise one guys taxes 25,000 you can give 5,000 to 5 other people who didn't earn ****.
 
most of the income taxes in this country are paid by wealthy people who won't be getting a tax cut, they will be getting a tax increase. If you raise one guys taxes 25,000 you can give 5,000 to 5 other people who didn't earn ****.


The problem is the definition of "wealthy people". Federal taxes do not take into account the cost of living which screws a lot of people who would be rich if they lived in an urban area but arent considered rich when they are living in a city. They can't move out of the city because then they wouldn't have a job.
 
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